Died from chronic bronchitis. Burried in Collingwood's St. Mary's cemetery next to her son and granddaughter. There's a conflict re her age. In the 1871 census, Mary's listed as 48. Nine year's later, on her 1880 tombstone, she's noted a 69. Go figure! She sure aged fast!
The following is a note from John Arthur Thorne (1938):
Wasn't able to get past the Dec., 1855 "incident" with Robert and Mary Thorn (resulting in Robert's death) until last month, when I was scrolling through volumes at the local genealogy library, and came across "Reid's Marriage Notices." Among the old Ontario papers scripted there is a weekly called "The Church, 1837-1849," published in Toronto. From its June 9, 1843 edition: "On13th ult., Robert Thorn to Mary McPartlan, both of this city. (Rev. A. Sanson.)" 13th ult. means the marriage took place May 13, 1843 in Toronto. We now know Mary's Irish surname; plus when, where (and by whom) they were married.
More notes from John Thorne:
Have since confirmed thru the Ontario Genealogical Society that Rev. A. Sanson was Anglican. (Next step is to find the actual church records, which should provide insight on our next earlier generation, etc.etc.)
Have found nothing further til 1871 census, where Mary and children are living in Collingwood, Ontario (Simcoe North District). This is located on the southern shore of the Georgian Bay, and was renown for ship building. Today, it's a popular vacation area, with the Blue Mountain ski resort its hub. Mary is listed as a widow, Catholic, born in Ireland. The four children are listed as Ontario born, of English origin, and members of the Church of England. The two older boys, Robert's (my great grandfather) and John's occupation's were firemen at the time.
24 Aug 2004:
Cathy, addressing your questions:
(1) Where can I get a copy of: the old weekly newspaper announcement for
Robert Thorn and Mary McTartlan, married May 13, 1843 in Toronto (by a
Rev. A. Sanson)?
The actual newspaper article may or may not exist in some obscure Ontario library. Don't know. My source for that info was Reid's Marriage Notices .
I was scrolling through volumes at the local genealogy library, and came across "Reid's Marriage Notices." Among the old Ontario papers scripted there is a weekly called "The Church, 1837-1849," published in Toronto. From its June 9, 1843 edition: "On13th ult., Robert Thorn to Mary McPartlan, both of this city. (Rev. A. Sanson.)" 13th ult. means the marriage took place May 13, 1843 in Toronto. We now know Mary's Irish surname; plus when, where (and by whom) they were married.
(2) A copy of their marriage record?
3 or 4 years ago, I corresponded with the Anglican Church, Diocese of Toronto archivist, and she was able to find the marriage registration document for me. I'll send you a hard copy when I'm back in town (Sept). E-mail me your "snail-mail" address.
(3) Copy of birth certificates or records of their childrens births?
To my knowledge, none exist; unless in a family bible or church registration somewhere. The aforementioned Anglican archivist at St. James Cathedral (in Toronto) couldn't find any baptismal records for our Thorn brood. She researched all the Anglican churches in the area for that timeframe. I looked up the church records for neighboring regions (Niagara, etc), but no luck. Expect they may not have been baptized!
(4) A copy of the 1871 Canada census of Mary Thorn and their four children
(Robert, William, John and Sarah) living in Collingwood, Ontario?
I believe I have a hard copy, obtained from LDS library, in my records. It may also be directly available (on line) in the Canada section of Cyndi's genealogy web site: http://www.cyndislist.com/ . Let me know if you want me to copy you.
(5) A death certificate and/or newspaper obituary of Mary's death in 1880.
Newspaper obit is probably unavailable, lost when the Collingwood archives were destroyed in a fire. I have a copy of the death registration, obtained from LDS library microfilms.
(6) A news copy and/or certificate of Robert's death in Niagara, Ontario in
Only thing I've found in print was from an old "abstinence" journal that was extolling the evils of "demon rum." It mentioned that Robert, Mary and a "friend" named Baker were highly intoxicated when Robert was hit over the head and killed (in Niagara). Baker fled across the river to the US, but was pursued and brought back. Robert was listed as a stonemason at the time. They were building the beautiful Niagara court house then, and I presume Robert was there as a skilled craftsman on that project. My Toronto archivist associate found documentation where Robert's remains were brought back to St. James Cathedral and interred there on Jan. 23rd (I believe) temporarily; then removed to Weston in April for final burial. That is where his parents, our Stokewake, Dorset, England Thornes (Robert and Anne Smart Thorne) resided. The cause of death was listed as something like "consumption." Bye for now, Cathy.
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